Iran tries to confront 'catastrophe' of violent clampdown on protests

Iran is grappling with the aftermath of a catastrophic crackdown on protests that has left thousands dead and widespread discontent. Politicians, academics, and security officials are grappling with the consequences of the violence, which has exposed deep fissures within society.

The debate is taking place in a heavily censored environment, but some select newspapers and Telegram channels have begun to break through the restrictions, revealing a more nuanced picture of the crisis. Estimates suggest that over 30,000 people were killed in the protests, which were sparked by widespread disillusionment with the government's failure to address economic woes.

Calls are being made for an independent external inquiry into the death toll and for a faster reopening of the internet to help businesses affected by the shutdown. Economists warn that food inflation is reaching unsustainable levels, with sanctions driving prices close to 200% annually.

The crisis has had a particularly severe impact on reformist politicians, who have been vocal about their support for the protests. One sociologist described the tragedy as an "event" that will be etched into Iranian history for decades, while another argued that only a UN-led inquiry could provide clarity on what happened.

Critics of the security forces are starting to emerge, accusing them of exaggerating the death toll and suppressing dissenting voices. Many commentators point to a generational divide between protesters and an aging leadership as the root cause of the unrest.

Some have called for foreign policy concessions to improve Iran's economic prospects, while others warn that another US-led attack could spark a nationalist revival among Iranians who feel their sovereignty is under threat.

The government's response has been marked by hypocrisy, with officials condemning Iranian economic mismanagement while ignoring the role of sanctions in driving inflation. As one jailed activist put it, "Ali Khamenei's personal instruction was to put the rioters in their place," revealing a deep-seated desire for revenge among the ruling elite.

The security services' response has been to blame others for the internet shutdown, but this only serves to highlight the growing tensions between those who want greater freedom of speech and those who are determined to keep dissent under control.
 
I'm totally with the gov on keeping the internet shutdown - it's way safer for the country! People need to focus on getting their economy back on track, not wasting time on Twitter ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, 200% inflation is crazy high and sanctions are just a fact of life right now. Can't expect the US to just magically fix everything with some fancy diplomatic deal. And btw, who needs an independent inquiry when we have our own security forces doing their job? They're doing what's best for Iran, even if it means making tough decisions. Those reformist politicians were asking for trouble by poking around in sensitive areas...
 
omg the situation in Iran is so heartbreaking ๐Ÿค• i dont think its right that thousands of people lost their lives just because they wanted to express their discontent ๐Ÿ˜” sanctions are also a major contributor to food inflation 200% is crazy! ๐Ÿคฏ cant we talk about this and try to find solutions instead of blaming each other? some ppl r saying us should give them economic concessions but others think its better to maintain our sovereignty ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ whats the best way forward?? ๐Ÿค”
 
๐Ÿ˜ฑ This is so crazy! The way Iran is handling these protests is just wrong ๐Ÿ’”. 30k+ people dead? That's just insane ๐Ÿ˜ท. I feel for the reformist politicians, they're getting a raw deal ๐Ÿคฏ. The government needs to get their act together and open up the internet, it's not fair to businesses and citizens alike ๐Ÿ“Š. The sanctions are killing them economically ๐Ÿ’ธ. We need an external inquiry to figure out what really went down ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ. Can't have a fair say in Iran right now ๐Ÿค. The US should be talking about economic aid, not attacking โš”๏ธ. It's all about sovereignty for the Iranians, let them decide their own fate ๐Ÿ™. Ali Khamenei needs to calm down and listen ๐Ÿ‘‚. #JusticeForIran #FreeSpeechMatters #EconomicReformNow
 
๐Ÿค” I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the conflicting info on the protests in Iran... 30k+ dead is a staggering number, but how can we trust the numbers at all? ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ The government's response has been super suspicious, especially with Ali Khamenei's alleged "personal instruction" to quell the protests. That sounds like a clear case of revenge politics. ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

I'm also not buying the "generational divide" narrative between protesters and the leadership... seems like a pretty weak excuse for violent crackdowns. And what about all those sanctions? They're driving inflation through the roof, but do we hear anyone talking about that in the media? ๐Ÿค‘ It's like everyone's just pretending it doesn't exist.

A UN-led inquiry could be a good idea, I guess... would help uncover some truth behind all this. But we need more sources, not just speculation and conjecture. Can someone point me to some credible reports or studies on the economic impact of sanctions? ๐Ÿ“Š
 
๐Ÿ˜ฌ I'm all for an independent inquiry into what really went down in Iran ๐Ÿค”. The numbers are just too astronomical (30k+ dead is crazy, can't even imagine the families affected). It's not surprising that foreign economists are sounding the alarm about food inflation - 200% annual growth? That's not a joke ๐Ÿด.

At the same time, I'm super skeptical of how much we're hearing from both sides. Some folks seem way too quick to blame others for the situation (security services, sanctions, protesters... it's always someone else), and I think that's a cop-out ๐Ÿ™„. The more nuanced stuff coming out on Telegram channels is definitely worth paying attention to - it sounds like there are some real fissures in society here.

I'm also not sure about these calls for foreign policy concessions just yet... we need to see what concrete steps the government is willing to take before making any promises ๐Ÿค. The fact that officials are condemning economic mismanagement while ignoring sanctions seems like a pretty clear case of hypocrisy ๐Ÿ˜’.
 
๐Ÿšจ๐Ÿ’” 30k+ people killed in Iran protests? that's crazy ๐Ÿ’€ it's like they never heard of human rights ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. sanctions driving inflation by 200%?! food prices gonna be through the roof! ๐Ÿด๐Ÿ˜ฉ reformist politicians getting crushed... an independent inquiry is due, like, yesterday ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ. I mean, who needs a UN-led investigation when you got witnesses and victims to speak out? ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Š. Security forces trying to silence dissenting voices... that's some scary stuff ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. Ali Khamenei's response sounds all like "let them burn"... meanwhile, internet's still down and it's affecting businesses big time ๐Ÿ’ธ๐Ÿ˜ค. This whole thing is just a mess ๐Ÿคฏ... need some real change in Iran ASAP โฐ
 
๐Ÿค• 30k+ dead isn't a number, it's a people ๐ŸŒŽ๐Ÿ’”. Can we put a human face on that? Thousands of families left behind, loved ones lost, and no closure in sight ๐Ÿ’€. We need answers not more blame game ๐Ÿ”ฅ. How can we move forward when the internet is still shut down? ๐Ÿค– It's like we're stuck in a time capsule. I feel for those reformist politicians who spoke out against the government... that takes courage ๐Ÿ’ช. And what about the sanctions driving up inflation to 200%? Is that just an oversight or a deliberate act of economic sabotage? ๐Ÿค‘ Sanctions = economic devastation, but can't we have both freedom and security? ๐Ÿค
 
๐Ÿค” I'm not surprised by the scale of the unrest in Iran, it's like they said before, "you can't hide the cracks forever" ๐Ÿ’ธ. 30k+ people dead is a tragedy, but we gotta look at the bigger picture - sanctions, economic woes... it's all part of the problem ๐Ÿค. I don't think an external inquiry is necessary, just get the internet up and running ASAP to help businesses and stuff. It's not like Iran doesn't have capable leaders, some folks are saying that the generational divide is the real issue here ๐Ÿ‘ด๐Ÿป. Don't get me wrong, I feel for those reformist politicians who got caught in the crossfire ๐Ÿ’”, but let's not forget that Ali Khamenei is the one calling the shots ๐Ÿ™. The security services are just trying to cover their own backsides ๐Ÿ˜….
 
๐Ÿค• honestly i feel so bad for the ppl in iran it's like they're being suffocated under all these restrictions & censorship its not just about the economic stuff, its about being able to express ur self without fear of reprisal ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ my friends who are activists on telegram r saying it gets really scary when u get reported by the authorities i hope they get their internet back ASAP so ppl can start talking about what's going on 200% inflation is crazy & its not just the protesters who are suffering, the regular ppl too ๐Ÿคฏ
 
Its crazy how Iran is struggling with all these issues ๐Ÿคฏ The way they're censoring news and not being open about what's really going on in the country is wild ๐Ÿšซ And with over 30k people killed, that's like a whole lotta lives lost ๐Ÿ’” I feel bad for the reformist politicians who are getting targeted by the government. It's like, they were just trying to make a difference and now they're being silenced ๐Ÿ’ฌ. The economy is messed up too ๐Ÿ“‰ And those sanctions are really hurting people. We should be calling out the governments hypocrisy instead of attacking each other ๐Ÿ™„ Its time for some real change in Iran ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
๐Ÿค• I'm literally feeling so sad reading about what's happening in Iran right now... Thousands of people dead and the government is trying to sweep it all under the rug ๐Ÿšฎ It's like, they're more worried about maintaining their power than actually helping their own people ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I mean, sanctions driving prices up 200%? That's just heartbreaking for ordinary Iranians who are already struggling to make ends meet ๐Ÿ’ธ

And can we talk about how hypocritical it is that the government is condemning Iranian economic mismanagement while ignoring the role of sanctions in causing inflation? ๐Ÿ™„ It's like they're not even trying to be real with themselves. And now, an independent inquiry is being called for? That would be a huge step towards transparency and accountability ๐Ÿ’ก

I'm also worried about reformist politicians who have been vocal about supporting the protests... They're facing serious backlash from the government, which is just ridiculous ๐Ÿคฏ It's like they thought the protests were going to magically solve all their problems without having to address the underlying issues.

We need more voices speaking out against this, not just within Iran but globally as well ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
๐Ÿค• I'm so worried about what's happening in Iran right now. The thought of thousands of people dead and economic inflation through the roof is just devastating ๐Ÿคฏ. It feels like the government is more interested in silencing people than listening to their concerns, and that's never going to fix the problems they're facing.

I think an independent inquiry would be a good start, but it's also clear that there are deeper issues at play here. The generational divide between protesters and the leadership is huge, and I can see why some people might feel like their sovereignty is being threatened ๐ŸŒŽ. Sanctions have to be addressed, and foreign policy concessions could help improve Iran's economic prospects.

But what really gets me is how hypocritical the government is about all this ๐Ÿ™„. They're always talking about how they want to create a more stable economy, but it feels like they're just looking for excuses to keep things under control. And that's not okay.

It's going to take a lot of effort and compromise from everyone involved to fix this crisis, but I'm hoping we can get there eventually ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
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